I honestly don't see this as a "blackpill". What do people expect? For a merchant like Trump to do anything revolutionary or based is beyond crazy. He never had it in him. Trump isn't worthy enough to kiss Caesar's feet. It's a huge wake-up call for alot of people who otherwise would still have their heads in the clouds. We don't want people on our side to believe in the system anymore. You already have huge portion of the population who think it's rigged. Dickhead Trump winning would put most people back to sleep. "We won, let's go home" etc. If there is any guy to keep a close eye on..it would be Erik Prince. He has definitely surprised me on some of the things he has said on podcasts including the one he was on with Tucker. Someone from the inside but is sick of the shit that is going on. A military man who had his own private army and has a great grasp of history going back to the Greeks/Roman's. That's a guy I could see starting fireworks in the next few years. Remember all the "great men" in history from Caesar to Napoleon were guys from within.
It’s all a blackpill to some people I guess. I’m with you—Trump never was going to, and never will, do anything drastic. He doesn’t have it in him. I think he wants to be liked by the regime more than he wants to go against it.
Erik Prince is an interesting guy. I confess I don’t know all that much about him but he seems really smart about world events.
I can understand why some people would see it as a black pill. He was supposedly our guy. He's a business man first and foremost and with business it's all about concessions. The shit we want done doesn't come from merchants like him. They come from great military men like Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar etc. You're right. His need to be liked by everyone is his downfall. He was playing politics like a video game and the other side was all serious with blood in mind. You don't win against enemies like that.
Same here! I find it interesting that a guy like him who disappeared from public life who is now everywhere now. I remember hearing about Prince years ago because of "war crimes" done by his private military (Blackwater) and he went through the ringer 10 years ago. They did the same shit to him what they are doing to Trump now. The fireworks that people in our circles are wishing for would come from someone like Erik Prince. A competent billionaire military man with connections within the defense department. He definitely has a chip on his shoulder and has stated many times he's still pissed what the government did to him and his private military company. Definitely keep an eye on him.
That’s what I remembered about Prince: him being a “war criminal.” His name was everywhere for a while, and then nothing.
You’re spot-on about merchants not being true agents of change. The politics of the American popular conception where both sides are playing by the same rulebook and want the same things is long dead. Trump didn’t understand that and I think that’s why he came across like a clown. Well, more of a clown than usual.
Unless the cause at the root of the problem is directly addressed, nothing will change till everything goes extinct. That is, capitalism and globalisation. The biggest lie they sold to people was that There Is No Alternative. That capitalism is the only system available to us, and with all the technology and resources we have the best we can do is plunder and destroy everything and everyone for a quick buck and a rise in the shares of suicidal industries. When we accepted to become homo consumens, abandoning culture, traditions, spirituality, reason, and love, polluting our environment and lives with even more useless stuff and ideas, we signed the death warrant. We gotta clean up asap, it may be our only chance. Start by doubting your longest held convictions, then move on to changing your behaviour as a voter (don't vote, it's a circus to distract your attention), as a consumer (think where your money goes, don't give it to assholes like Bezos etc), and as a human being (nobody can live a good life if some of us suffer anywhere, anytime) Demand good to get good, the lesser evil will always give you evil.
Consumerism and globalization are civilization-killers. Yes, I’ll throw capitalism in there as well: unadulterated, unregulated capitalism leads to what we have now.
There are more than two paths (capitalism and communism). There were before those two words were coined, and there will be after.
Capitalism is not the root of the problem. Capitalism has existed since the 17th century (give or take 300 years depending on your definition) while our problems largely began less than a century ago by a particular ethnic demographic among the elite and some low-level skeptics of Capitalism rather than the elite entirely
It is the natural progress of things in a capitalist system. When the main drive is to create profit at any cost, at some point the "market" becomes congested, and then they have to throw a war in to reset and re-create "opportunities". World wars are not spontaneous, they are planned affairs, and we're heading to one as we speak. You cannot have perpetual growth without destruction, when your resources are limited. You need things to keep falling apart, you need wars to destroy whole areas, you need poverty and unemployment to keep wages down, you need mindless consumption and pollution to keep it going. Once you've understood that, you understand why capitalism is unsustainable and always leads to destruction to maintain itself. There can be other systems, where we are all free and happy, it is doable with what we've already got, we just need to leave our old thinking behind. Feudalism seemed as natural once to people who lived through it. Now it's making a comeback as techno-feudalism and you can thank capitalists for that. You may wanna look into it if you haven't already.
War has been getting less common under Capitalism, not more. And feudal lords, being essentially a warrior elite, have a much stronger incentive to encourage warfare. Capitalism has also reduced poverty, not increased it. Pollution is a characteristic of industrial economies in general. The Soviets were not angels to the environment. Also, Feudalism was a fine system for its time. Techno-feudalism is not feudalism.
I was expecting something heavy hitting like “capitalism results in sexual deviance, low birth rates, immigration” but maybe you’re more of a shitlib than I anticipated if your main concern is “war and poverty”
I was expecting an intelligent debate as well, not the same worn out, thoroughly debunked pro capitalist arguments that they peddle to keep you tied on their destructive treadmill. Nobody mentioned the Soviets, btw, but you have been conditioned to make these assumptions, which is regrettable, since it allows no mental progress. Surprised to hear that a shitlib (whatever that means to you Americans) is someone concerned with war and poverty, which are not by any stretch of imagination as bad and "heavy hitting" as the "sexual deviance, low birth rates and immigration" which threaten the supreme white race. Or did I get that bit wrong?
that is funny and all but trump is part of the system. He is not special, he is just what politicians used to be before the madness and rot set in. The system itself, the american one, is atrocious, and became so after Lincoln. Even previously, the whole political system of the US was based on lockean principles with a touch of the masonic. Locke is an upside-down Thommas Hobbes. Altho both understand the concept of Social Contract, Hobbes was way more based because his view was predicated on reality and not in utopianism. just my 2 cents.
I 100 percent agree. Trump is a buffoon who just thought the old rules still applied, the old America still existed, which proves he’s unfit for the task at hand.
I also agree that a) the American system is atrocious and b) it was based on flawed premises from the start. It looks clear to me that the system is beyond reform, and that America succeeded despite its system because of its people. Those days might be over though. We’re not enough to overcome the beast.
I couldn't have said it better myself. The era of gentlemanly politics is long gone and dead. Only thing that clown was useful for is that he has been the most impactful since Lincoln. Not because Trump implemented any important or based policies, but because he pushed the regime into being erratic making so many unforced errors and blunders thus revealing the illusion and lies that have always been there to huge segments of the population. We are living at the precedent of history at the moment, and the coming years will be very interesting. Mark my words the next guy that comes up whether Prince or someone else will be all the things they accused Trump of being and they won't give a fuck about it.
I can't speak as much to the internal issues of the US, except to say that some proposed solutions are basically guaranteed to worsen the situation.
But on foreign policy, it's worth acknowledging that US spending money abroad has benefits for Americans. You can certainly argue whether those benefits are worth the cost but they do exist.
The perception, at least, here in the U.S. is that we get precious little for our tax dollars going elsewhere. I’m always skeptical about isolationism being detrimental to the average American because most arguments in favor of being interventionist that I see discuss the benefits to those who are already benefiting highly from the status quo. Maybe there are benefits I can’t see or feel.
I honestly don't see this as a "blackpill". What do people expect? For a merchant like Trump to do anything revolutionary or based is beyond crazy. He never had it in him. Trump isn't worthy enough to kiss Caesar's feet. It's a huge wake-up call for alot of people who otherwise would still have their heads in the clouds. We don't want people on our side to believe in the system anymore. You already have huge portion of the population who think it's rigged. Dickhead Trump winning would put most people back to sleep. "We won, let's go home" etc. If there is any guy to keep a close eye on..it would be Erik Prince. He has definitely surprised me on some of the things he has said on podcasts including the one he was on with Tucker. Someone from the inside but is sick of the shit that is going on. A military man who had his own private army and has a great grasp of history going back to the Greeks/Roman's. That's a guy I could see starting fireworks in the next few years. Remember all the "great men" in history from Caesar to Napoleon were guys from within.
It’s all a blackpill to some people I guess. I’m with you—Trump never was going to, and never will, do anything drastic. He doesn’t have it in him. I think he wants to be liked by the regime more than he wants to go against it.
Erik Prince is an interesting guy. I confess I don’t know all that much about him but he seems really smart about world events.
I can understand why some people would see it as a black pill. He was supposedly our guy. He's a business man first and foremost and with business it's all about concessions. The shit we want done doesn't come from merchants like him. They come from great military men like Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar etc. You're right. His need to be liked by everyone is his downfall. He was playing politics like a video game and the other side was all serious with blood in mind. You don't win against enemies like that.
Same here! I find it interesting that a guy like him who disappeared from public life who is now everywhere now. I remember hearing about Prince years ago because of "war crimes" done by his private military (Blackwater) and he went through the ringer 10 years ago. They did the same shit to him what they are doing to Trump now. The fireworks that people in our circles are wishing for would come from someone like Erik Prince. A competent billionaire military man with connections within the defense department. He definitely has a chip on his shoulder and has stated many times he's still pissed what the government did to him and his private military company. Definitely keep an eye on him.
That’s what I remembered about Prince: him being a “war criminal.” His name was everywhere for a while, and then nothing.
You’re spot-on about merchants not being true agents of change. The politics of the American popular conception where both sides are playing by the same rulebook and want the same things is long dead. Trump didn’t understand that and I think that’s why he came across like a clown. Well, more of a clown than usual.
You should vote even if you believe the game is rigged because it doesn't cost you anything, and not voting does not "show" anyone anything.
That’s where I am: might as well vote because they haven’t taken away the right yet.
Unless the cause at the root of the problem is directly addressed, nothing will change till everything goes extinct. That is, capitalism and globalisation. The biggest lie they sold to people was that There Is No Alternative. That capitalism is the only system available to us, and with all the technology and resources we have the best we can do is plunder and destroy everything and everyone for a quick buck and a rise in the shares of suicidal industries. When we accepted to become homo consumens, abandoning culture, traditions, spirituality, reason, and love, polluting our environment and lives with even more useless stuff and ideas, we signed the death warrant. We gotta clean up asap, it may be our only chance. Start by doubting your longest held convictions, then move on to changing your behaviour as a voter (don't vote, it's a circus to distract your attention), as a consumer (think where your money goes, don't give it to assholes like Bezos etc), and as a human being (nobody can live a good life if some of us suffer anywhere, anytime) Demand good to get good, the lesser evil will always give you evil.
Consumerism and globalization are civilization-killers. Yes, I’ll throw capitalism in there as well: unadulterated, unregulated capitalism leads to what we have now.
There are more than two paths (capitalism and communism). There were before those two words were coined, and there will be after.
Capitalism is not the root of the problem. Capitalism has existed since the 17th century (give or take 300 years depending on your definition) while our problems largely began less than a century ago by a particular ethnic demographic among the elite and some low-level skeptics of Capitalism rather than the elite entirely
It is the natural progress of things in a capitalist system. When the main drive is to create profit at any cost, at some point the "market" becomes congested, and then they have to throw a war in to reset and re-create "opportunities". World wars are not spontaneous, they are planned affairs, and we're heading to one as we speak. You cannot have perpetual growth without destruction, when your resources are limited. You need things to keep falling apart, you need wars to destroy whole areas, you need poverty and unemployment to keep wages down, you need mindless consumption and pollution to keep it going. Once you've understood that, you understand why capitalism is unsustainable and always leads to destruction to maintain itself. There can be other systems, where we are all free and happy, it is doable with what we've already got, we just need to leave our old thinking behind. Feudalism seemed as natural once to people who lived through it. Now it's making a comeback as techno-feudalism and you can thank capitalists for that. You may wanna look into it if you haven't already.
War has been getting less common under Capitalism, not more. And feudal lords, being essentially a warrior elite, have a much stronger incentive to encourage warfare. Capitalism has also reduced poverty, not increased it. Pollution is a characteristic of industrial economies in general. The Soviets were not angels to the environment. Also, Feudalism was a fine system for its time. Techno-feudalism is not feudalism.
I was expecting something heavy hitting like “capitalism results in sexual deviance, low birth rates, immigration” but maybe you’re more of a shitlib than I anticipated if your main concern is “war and poverty”
I was expecting an intelligent debate as well, not the same worn out, thoroughly debunked pro capitalist arguments that they peddle to keep you tied on their destructive treadmill. Nobody mentioned the Soviets, btw, but you have been conditioned to make these assumptions, which is regrettable, since it allows no mental progress. Surprised to hear that a shitlib (whatever that means to you Americans) is someone concerned with war and poverty, which are not by any stretch of imagination as bad and "heavy hitting" as the "sexual deviance, low birth rates and immigration" which threaten the supreme white race. Or did I get that bit wrong?
that is funny and all but trump is part of the system. He is not special, he is just what politicians used to be before the madness and rot set in. The system itself, the american one, is atrocious, and became so after Lincoln. Even previously, the whole political system of the US was based on lockean principles with a touch of the masonic. Locke is an upside-down Thommas Hobbes. Altho both understand the concept of Social Contract, Hobbes was way more based because his view was predicated on reality and not in utopianism. just my 2 cents.
I 100 percent agree. Trump is a buffoon who just thought the old rules still applied, the old America still existed, which proves he’s unfit for the task at hand.
I also agree that a) the American system is atrocious and b) it was based on flawed premises from the start. It looks clear to me that the system is beyond reform, and that America succeeded despite its system because of its people. Those days might be over though. We’re not enough to overcome the beast.
I couldn't have said it better myself. The era of gentlemanly politics is long gone and dead. Only thing that clown was useful for is that he has been the most impactful since Lincoln. Not because Trump implemented any important or based policies, but because he pushed the regime into being erratic making so many unforced errors and blunders thus revealing the illusion and lies that have always been there to huge segments of the population. We are living at the precedent of history at the moment, and the coming years will be very interesting. Mark my words the next guy that comes up whether Prince or someone else will be all the things they accused Trump of being and they won't give a fuck about it.
That’s either scary or great depending on your point of view.
And totally self-inflicted by the regime.
I can't speak as much to the internal issues of the US, except to say that some proposed solutions are basically guaranteed to worsen the situation.
But on foreign policy, it's worth acknowledging that US spending money abroad has benefits for Americans. You can certainly argue whether those benefits are worth the cost but they do exist.
https://www.cgdev.org/blog/its-not-just-military-aid-thats-americas-interests
https://www.gmfus.org/news/us-military-support-ukraine-helping-put-american-industry-back-track
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-every-american-should-know-about-u-s-foreign-aid/
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/maximizing-us-foreign-aid-for-strategic-competition/
https://brusselssignal.eu/2024/03/full-fledged-american-isolationism-would-be-devastating-for-its-own-interests-first-and-foremost/
Man that’s a lot of info. Thank you!
The perception, at least, here in the U.S. is that we get precious little for our tax dollars going elsewhere. I’m always skeptical about isolationism being detrimental to the average American because most arguments in favor of being interventionist that I see discuss the benefits to those who are already benefiting highly from the status quo. Maybe there are benefits I can’t see or feel.
You're welcome!
That's a reasonable take. At minimum, the US government does a rubbish job of laying out how your foreign engagements tangibly benefit ye.
Pretty sour black pill.
Not supposed to be a blackpill at all.
But muh doom profitcies.
https://argomend.substack.com/p/blackpill-bucks
Good article. Thanks for the link.
Vooooooote harder!!!!!